{"id":2492,"date":"2026-06-06T20:38:29","date_gmt":"2026-06-06T18:38:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/?p=2492"},"modified":"2026-06-06T20:45:45","modified_gmt":"2026-06-06T18:45:45","slug":"harom-esku-salos-sevuot-ketubot-111a","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/harom-esku-salos-sevuot-ketubot-111a\/","title":{"rendered":"Three Vows (Shavuot, Ketubot 111a)"},"content":{"rendered":"

A H\u00e1rom Esk\u00fc (Salos Sevuot<\/i>, Ketubot 111a<\/a>)<\/b> \u00e9s az arra \u00e9p\u00fcl\u0151 vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e9rvel\u00e9s elemz\u00e9se az egyik legizgalmasabb teol\u00f3giai \u00e9s logikai terep. Ha a klasszikus talmudi logika \u00e9s a nemzetk\u00f6zi jog alapelvei fel\u0151l k\u00f6zel\u00edt\u00fcnk, a vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont \u2013 miszerint a harmadik esk\u00fc megszeg\u00e9se (a Holokauszt) \u00e9rv\u00e9nytelen\u00edtette a m\u00e1sik kett\u0151t \u2013 t\u00f6bb ponton is s\u00falyos logikai \u00e9s struktur\u00e1lis ellentmond\u00e1sokba \u00fctk\u00f6zik<\/b>.<\/p>\n

Az al\u00e1bbiakban dekonstru\u00e1ljuk, mi\u00e9rt s\u00e1nt\u00edt a cionista magyar\u00e1zat, \u00e9s mi\u00e9rt b\u00edr kikezdhetetlen logik\u00e1val az anticionista ortodox (pl. szatm\u00e1ri haszid) \u00e1ll\u00e1spont.<\/p>\n

1. A kollekt\u00edv felel\u0151ss\u00e9g logikai hib\u00e1ja (Ki szegte meg az esk\u00fct?)<\/h2>\n

A vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e9rvel\u00e9s \u00edgy sz\u00f3l: \u201eA vil\u00e1g nemzetei t\u00fal kegyetlen\u00fcl sanyargatt\u00e1k a zsid\u00f3kat (Holokauszt), \u00edgy az esk\u00fc \u00e9rv\u00e9ny\u00e9t vesztette.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n

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    A logikai bukfenc:<\/b> A \u201evil\u00e1g nemzetei\u201d (Umot HaOlam<\/i>) nem egyetlen homog\u00e9n jogi szem\u00e9ly. A Holokausztot a n\u00e1ci N\u00e9metorsz\u00e1g \u00e9s eur\u00f3pai csatl\u00f3sai k\u00f6vett\u00e9k el. Ezzel szemben a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9pnek otthont ad\u00f3 Palesztina (a mai Izrael ter\u00fclete) a k\u00e9rd\u00e9ses id\u0151szakban az Oszm\u00e1n Birodalom, majd a Brit Mand\u00e1tum r\u00e9sze volt. A palesztin \u0151slakoss\u00e1gnak semmi k\u00f6ze nem volt az eur\u00f3pai Holokauszthoz.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    A k\u00f6vetkezm\u00e9ny:<\/b> Logikailag teljesen abszurd egy olyan szerz\u0151d\u00e9sre hivatkozva felbontani az esk\u00fct \u00e9s elfoglalni Palesztin\u00e1t, amelyet egy teljesen m\u00e1sik f\u00e9l (N\u00e9metorsz\u00e1g) szegett meg<\/b>. Ez olyan, mintha az \u201eA\u201d f\u00e9l szerz\u0151d\u00e9sszeg\u00e9s\u00e9re hivatkozva a \u201eB\u201d f\u00e9l bossz\u00fab\u00f3l \u00e9s k\u00e1rp\u00f3tl\u00e1sk\u00e9nt elvenn\u00e9 a teljesen \u00e1rtatlan \u201eC\u201d f\u00e9l tulajdon\u00e1t.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

    2. A palesztinok elleni l\u00e1zad\u00e1s (A m\u00e1sodik esk\u00fc megszeg\u00e9se)<\/h2>\n

    A m\u00e1sodik esk\u00fc kimondja: \u201eA zsid\u00f3k nem l\u00e1zadhatnak fel azon nemzetek ellen, amelyek befogadt\u00e1k \u0151ket a sz\u00e1m\u0171zet\u00e9sben.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n

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      A logikai bukfenc:<\/b> Amikor a cionist\u00e1k fegyveres mil\u00edci\u00e1kat alap\u00edtottak (Hagana, Irgun, Lehi), nemcsak a brit mand\u00e1tumhat\u00f3s\u00e1g, hanem a f\u00f6ldet \u00e9vsz\u00e1zadok \u00f3ta lak\u00f3 palesztin-arab lakoss\u00e1g ellen is fell\u00e1zadtak \u00e9s fegyveres er\u0151szakkal el\u00fcld\u00f6zt\u00e9k \u0151ket (Nakba).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      Ha a cionist\u00e1k szerint az eur\u00f3pai \u00fcld\u00f6ztet\u00e9s fel is mentette \u0151ket az els\u0151 esk\u00fc al\u00f3l (a visszat\u00e9r\u00e9s tilalma), semmilyen logikai vagy mor\u00e1lis alapjuk nem volt arra, hogy megszegj\u00e9k a m\u00e1sodik esk\u00fct<\/b>, \u00e9s r\u00e1t\u00e1madjanak egy olyan k\u00f6zel-keleti muszlim\/arab vil\u00e1gra, amely a k\u00f6z\u00e9pkor \u00f3ta (ahogy a kor\u00e1bbi cikk\u00fcnkben is bemutattuk) dhimmi-v\u00e9delmet \u00e9s mened\u00e9ket ny\u00fajtott nekik az eur\u00f3pai antiszemitizmus el\u0151l.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      3. Az isteni szuverenit\u00e1s vs. emberi \u00f6nk\u00e9nnyel val\u00f3 vissza\u00e9l\u00e9s<\/h2>\n

      Joel Teitelbaum (a szatm\u00e1ri rebbe) a Va-Joelt Mose<\/i> c\u00edm\u0171 alapm\u0171v\u00e9ben zseni\u00e1lisan mutatott r\u00e1 arra a teol\u00f3giai \u00e9s logikai ellentmond\u00e1sra, amit a cionist\u00e1k elk\u00f6vetnek az isteni terv \u00e9rtelmez\u00e9sekor.<\/p>\n

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        A cionista logika:<\/b> Isten megengedte a Holokausztot $\\rightarrow$<\/span> a nemzetek megszegt\u00e9k az esk\u00fct $\\rightarrow$<\/span> Isem feloldotta a zsid\u00f3kat az esk\u00fc al\u00f3l $\\rightarrow$<\/span> fegyverrel kell \u00e1llamot alap\u00edtani.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        A talmudi\/ortodox c\u00e1folat:<\/b> A zsid\u00f3 teol\u00f3gia szerint a sz\u00e1m\u0171zet\u00e9s (Galut<\/i>) egy isteni b\u00fcntet\u00e9s<\/b> a b\u0171n\u00f6k\u00e9rt, \u00e9s a megv\u00e1lt\u00e1s (Geula<\/i>) kiz\u00e1r\u00f3lag isteni, term\u00e9szetfeletti beavatkoz\u00e1ssal (a Messi\u00e1s \u00e1ltal) t\u00f6rt\u00e9nhet meg. Ha a nemzetek sanyargatj\u00e1k a zsid\u00f3kat, az a zsid\u00f3 hit szerint Isten akarat\u00e1b\u00f3l t\u00f6rt\u00e9nik (mint t\u00f6rt\u00e9nelmi csap\u00e1s).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        Logikai konkl\u00fazi\u00f3:<\/b> Abb\u00f3l, hogy a b\u00f6rt\u00f6n\u0151r (a nemzetek) kegyetlenebb a megengedettn\u00e9l, a fogolynak (a zsid\u00f3knak) a talmudi jog szerint nincs joga \u00f6nhatalm\u00falag bet\u00f6rni a Kir\u00e1ly (Isten) palot\u00e1j\u00e1ba<\/b>, \u00e9s azt \u00e1ll\u00edtani, hogy a Kir\u00e1ly enged\u00e9lye n\u00e9lk\u00fcl is \u00f6v\u00e9 a h\u00e1z. A cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont humaniz\u00e1lja \u00e9s szekulariz\u00e1lja a messi\u00e1si \u00edg\u00e9retet, azaz az isteni megv\u00e1lt\u00e1st fegyveres-politikai akci\u00f3v\u00e1 degrad\u00e1lja.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        4. A \u201eFalm\u00e1sz\u00e1s\u201d (KHomah<\/i>) fogalm\u00e1nak f\u00e9lre\u00e9rtelmez\u00e9se<\/h2>\n

        Az els\u0151 esk\u00fc megtiltja a \u201efalm\u00e1sz\u00e1st\u201d, ami a talmudi komment\u00e1rok szerint a t\u00f6meges, fegyveres \u00e9s politikai er\u0151vel t\u00f6rt\u00e9n\u0151 bev\u00e1ndorl\u00e1st<\/b> jelenti a Messi\u00e1s el\u0151tt.<\/p>\n

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          A cionista logika:<\/b> A zsid\u00f3k nem \u201efalat m\u00e1sztak\u201d, hanem a Balfour-deklar\u00e1ci\u00f3 \u00e9s az ENSZ 1947-es feloszt\u00e1si terve r\u00e9v\u00e9n nemzetk\u00f6zi jogi felhatalmaz\u00e1st kaptak a visszat\u00e9r\u00e9sre.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          A logikai bukfenc:<\/b> Az esk\u00fc nem a nemzetk\u00f6zi diplom\u00e1ci\u00e1r\u00f3l, hanem az isteni id\u0151z\u00edt\u00e9sr\u0151l<\/b> sz\u00f3l. A Talmud nem azt mondja, hogy \u201ene t\u00e9rjetek vissza, kiv\u00e9ve ha az ENSZ megszavazza\u201d<\/i>. Az esk\u00fc l\u00e9nyege, hogy a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9p nem veheti a saj\u00e1t kez\u00e9be a sors\u00e1t materi\u00e1lis eszk\u00f6z\u00f6kkel a messi\u00e1si kor el\u0151tt. Az, hogy vil\u00e1gi, imperialista nagyhatalmak (Nagy-Britannia, USA) assziszt\u00e1ltak az \u00e1llamalap\u00edt\u00e1shoz, a talmudi jog szerint nem \u00edrja fel\u00fcl a Teremt\u0151vel k\u00f6t\u00f6tt metafizikai esk\u00fct.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          \u00d6sszegz\u00e9s az Antipropaganda sz\u00e1m\u00e1ra<\/h2>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
          Az anticionista ortodox logika (Konzisztens)<\/strong><\/td>\nA vall\u00e1sos cionista logika (Inkonzisztens)<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
          Az esk\u00fc Isten \u00e9s a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9p k\u00f6z\u00f6tt k\u00f6ttetett, ember nem bonthatja fel.<\/span><\/td>\nEur\u00f3pa megszegte az esk\u00fct, ez\u00e9rt Palesztin\u00e1ban szabad \u00e1llamot alap\u00edtani.<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
          A megv\u00e1lt\u00e1s spiritu\u00e1lis \u00e9s b\u00e9k\u00e9s folyamat (Messi\u00e1s).<\/span><\/td>\nA megv\u00e1lt\u00e1s katonai \u00e9s politikai folyamat (IDF, cionizmus).<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
          Tiszteli a m\u00e1sodik esk\u00fct: nem l\u00e1zad fel a helyi nemzetek ellen.<\/span><\/td>\nMegszegi a m\u00e1sodik esk\u00fct: fegyverrel \u00fcld\u00f6zi el a helyi lakoss\u00e1got.<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

          A vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont teh\u00e1t logikailag az\u00e9rt tarthatatlan, mert egy Eur\u00f3p\u00e1ban elszenvedett t\u00f6rt\u00e9nelmi b\u0171nt (Holokauszt) haszn\u00e1l fel jogalapk\u00e9nt egy palesztinai gyarmatos\u00edt\u00f3 h\u00e1bor\u00fahoz<\/b>, mik\u00f6zben a Talmud szellemis\u00e9g\u00e9t teljesen kiforgatva a spiritu\u00e1lis parancsolatokat politikai agresszi\u00f3v\u00e1 alak\u00edtja \u00e1t.<\/p>\n

          I. Pontos forr\u00e1smegjel\u00f6l\u00e9s (A sz\u00f6veg eredetije)<\/h2>\n
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            Els\u0151dleges forr\u00e1s:<\/b> Babiloni Talmud, Ketubot trakt\u00e1tus, 111a. lap<\/b> (Talmud Bavli, Masechet Ketubot 111a)<\/i>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            A kontextus:<\/b> A Talmud ezen r\u00e9sze az \u00c9nekek \u00c9neke (Sir HaSirim<\/i>) h\u00e1rom rejt\u00e9lyes vers\u00e9re \u00e9p\u00edt, ahol a sz\u00f6veg arra k\u00e9ri Jeruzs\u00e1lem le\u00e1nyait, hogy \u201ene kelts\u00e9k fel \u00e9s ne \u00e9bressz\u00e9k fel a szerelmet, am\u00edg \u0151 nem akarja\u201d (\u00c9nekek 2:7, 3:5, 8:4). A rabbinikus exeg\u00e9zis ezt a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9p \u00e9s Isten k\u00f6z\u00f6tti viszonyra, a sz\u00e1m\u0171zet\u00e9sre \u00e9s a megv\u00e1lt\u00e1sra vet\u00edti le.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

            II. A tartalom forr\u00e1skritikai fel\u00fclvizsg\u00e1lata \u00e9s ellen\u0151rz\u00e9se<\/h2>\n

            1. Az els\u0151 esk\u00fc: A \u201efalm\u00e1sz\u00e1s\u201d (Shelo ja’alu b’chomah<\/i>)<\/h3>\n
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              A talmudi eredeti kifejez\u00e9s:<\/b> \u201eHatalmas falat \u00e9p\u00edtve felvonulni\u201d<\/i>, amit R\u00e1si (a legtekint\u00e9lyesebb talmudi komment\u00e1tor, 11. sz.) \u00fagy magyar\u00e1z, hogy \u201eer\u0151vel, egy\u00fcttesen (t\u00f6megesen) visszat\u00e9rni\u201d<\/b>.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              A cionista \u00e9rv ellen\u0151rz\u00e9se:<\/b> A vall\u00e1sos cionist\u00e1k (f\u0151k\u00e9nt Rav Kook \u00f6r\u00f6ks\u00e9ge alapj\u00e1n) azt \u00e1ll\u00edtj\u00e1k, hogy az 1917-es Balfour-deklar\u00e1ci\u00f3 \u00e9s az 1947-es ENSZ-hat\u00e1rozat jogilag feloldotta ezt, mert a vil\u00e1g nemzetei \u201eenged\u00e9lyt adtak\u201d a visszat\u00e9r\u00e9sre.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              A logikai hiba c\u00e1folata:<\/b> A Talmud kontextus\u00e1ban az esk\u00fc Isten \u00e9s a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9p k\u00f6z\u00f6tt<\/b> \u00e1ll fenn, nem pedig a zsid\u00f3 n\u00e9p \u00e9s a pog\u00e1ny nemzetek k\u00f6z\u00f6tt. Az ENSZ-nek vagy Nagy-Britanni\u00e1nak nincs teol\u00f3giai jogk\u00f6re arra, hogy feloldjon egy olyan metafizikai esk\u00fct, amelyet Isten k\u00f6vetelt meg a zsid\u00f3s\u00e1gt\u00f3l. Az esk\u00fc felold\u00e1sa kiz\u00e1r\u00f3lag pr\u00f3f\u00e9tai int\u0151 jelekkel vagy a Messi\u00e1s fizikai elj\u00f6vetel\u00e9vel t\u00f6rt\u00e9nhetne meg.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

              2. A harmadik esk\u00fc: A nemzetek sanyargat\u00e1sa (Shelo yishtabdu bahem joter midai<\/i>)<\/h3>\n
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                A talmudi eredeti:<\/b> Isten megeskette a vil\u00e1g nemzeteit, hogy a sz\u00e1m\u0171zet\u00e9s alatt ne ig\u00e1zz\u00e1k le a zsid\u00f3kat \u201et\u00falzott m\u00e9rt\u00e9kben\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                A cionista \u00e9rv ellen\u0151rz\u00e9se:<\/b> A cionista teol\u00f3gia (pl. a modern nacionalista vall\u00e1sos ir\u00e1nyzatok) az Anshei Geulah<\/i> elve alapj\u00e1n azt mondja: mivel a Holokauszt megt\u00f6rt\u00e9nt, a nemzetek megszegt\u00e9k a szerz\u0151d\u00e9st, \u00edgy a zsid\u00f3k mentes\u00fclnek a m\u00e1sik k\u00e9t esk\u00fc al\u00f3l (visszat\u00e9rhetnek \u00e9s l\u00e1zadhatnak).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                A logikai \u00e9s jogi hiba \u00fajb\u00f3li ellen\u0151rz\u00e9se:<\/b> 1. A viszonoss\u00e1g hi\u00e1nya:<\/b> A talmudi \u00e9s halachikus jogban (ellent\u00e9tben a modern polg\u00e1ri szerz\u0151d\u00e9sjoggal) egy isteni esk\u00fc nem egy k\u00e9toldal\u00fa, szinallagmatikus (csereber\u00e9lhet\u0151) szerz\u0151d\u00e9s. Ha az egyik f\u00e9l (a nemzetek) b\u0171nt k\u00f6vet el, az nem ad jogot a m\u00e1sik f\u00e9lnek (a zsid\u00f3knak) arra, hogy egy harmadik parancsolatot (az isteni id\u0151z\u00edt\u00e9s tiszteletben tart\u00e1s\u00e1t) megszegjenek. 2. A v\u00e9tkes elhib\u00e1z\u00e1sa:<\/b> A Holokausztot az eur\u00f3pai nemzetek k\u00f6vett\u00e9k el. A cionizmus azonban nem N\u00e9metorsz\u00e1gban vagy Lengyelorsz\u00e1gban alap\u00edtott \u00e1llamot, hanem Palesztin\u00e1ban. A palesztinai arab lakoss\u00e1g \u00e9s a k\u00f6zel-keleti muszlimok nem voltak r\u00e9szesei a harmadik esk\u00fc eur\u00f3pai megszeg\u00e9s\u00e9nek, a cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont m\u00e9gis rajtuk hajtja be a \u201ek\u00e1rt\u00e9r\u00edt\u00e9st\u201d.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                III. V\u00e9gs\u0151 konkl\u00fazi\u00f3 az ellen\u0151rz\u00e9s ut\u00e1n<\/h2>\n

                A tartalom fel\u00fclvizsg\u00e1lata r\u00e1mutat, hogy a vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont teol\u00f3giai opportunizmusra<\/b> \u00e9p\u00fcl: a Talmudot nem jogforr\u00e1sk\u00e9nt, hanem ut\u00f3lagos politikai legitim\u00e1ci\u00f3k\u00e9nt haszn\u00e1lja.<\/p>\n

                Amikor a cionizmusnak k\u00e9nyelmes, a bibliai hat\u00e1rokra hivatkozik (szent f\u00f6ld), de amikor a Talmud explicit m\u00f3don megtiltja a fegyveres \u00e1llamalap\u00edt\u00e1st a Messi\u00e1s el\u0151tt, akkor a vil\u00e1gi nemzetk\u00f6zi jogra (ENSZ) \u00e9s az eur\u00f3pai antiszemitizmus okozta traum\u00e1ra hivatkozva \u00e9rv\u00e9nytelen\u00edti a rabbinikus hagyom\u00e1nyt.<\/p>\n

                A szatm\u00e1ri haszidizmus (Va-Joelt Mose<\/i>) logik\u00e1ja ebb\u0151l a szempontb\u00f3l z\u00e1rt \u00e9s hib\u00e1tlan: ha a sz\u00e1m\u0171zet\u00e9s isteni akarat, akkor a fegyveres cionizmus egy olyan szekul\u00e1ris l\u00e1zad\u00e1s, amely nem sietteti, hanem \u2013 a b\u0171n\u00f6k felhalmoz\u00e1s\u00e1val \u2013 h\u00e1tr\u00e1ltatja a val\u00f3di, b\u00e9k\u00e9s messi\u00e1si megv\u00e1lt\u00e1st.<\/p>\n

                A Talmudnak ezt a r\u00e9sz\u00e9t a rabbik ar\u00e1mi \u00e9s h\u00e9ber kever\u00e9knyelven vitatj\u00e1k meg. \u00cdme a legfontosabb szakasz, amely a H\u00e1rom Esk\u00fc<\/i> (Salos Sevuot<\/i>) alapj\u00e1t k\u00e9pezi, pontos ford\u00edt\u00e1ssal \u00e9s magyar\u00e1zattal:<\/p>\n

                A Talmud sz\u00f6vege (Ketubot 111a)<\/h3>\n
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                \u05d2’ \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05dc\u05dc\u05d5 \u05dc\u05de\u05d4? \u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e2\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d1\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05de\u05e8\u05d3\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d5\u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d0\u05ea \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05d3\u05d9 \u05db\u05d5\u05db\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e9\u05ea\u05e2\u05d1\u05d3\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d4\u05df \u05d1\u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d9\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8 \u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9<\/b><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

                Magyar ford\u00edt\u00e1s:<\/h4>\n
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                \u201eMi\u00e9rt van ez a H\u00e1rom Esk\u00fc?<\/p>\n

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                  Az egyik:<\/b> Hogy Izrael fiai ne vonuljanak fel t\u00f6megesen (falat \u00e9p\u00edtve\/er\u0151szakkal) Izrael F\u00f6ldj\u00e9re.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                  A m\u00e1sodik:<\/b> Amellyel a Szent, \u00e1ldott legyen \u0150, megeskette Izraelt, hogy ne l\u00e1zadjanak fel a vil\u00e1g nemzetei ellen.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                  A harmadik:<\/b> Amellyel a Szent, \u00e1ldott legyen \u0150, megeskette a b\u00e1lv\u00e1nyim\u00e1d\u00f3kat (a vil\u00e1g nemzeteit), hogy ne ig\u00e1zz\u00e1k le Izraelt t\u00falzott m\u00e9rt\u00e9kben.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n

                  Analyzing the Religious Zionist Position vs. The Three Oaths (Salos Sevuot<\/i>, Ketubot 111a)<\/h2>\n

                  The analysis of the Three Oaths (Salos Sevuot<\/i>, Ketubot 111a) and the religious Zionist arguments built upon them represents one of the most compelling theological and logical battlegrounds. When approached through classical Talmudic logic and the fundamental principles of international law, the religious Zionist stance\u2014which claims that the violation of the Third Oath (the Holocaust) invalidated the other two\u2014runs into severe logical and structural contradictions on multiple fronts.<\/p>\n

                  Below, we deconstruct why the Zionist explanation falters, and why the anti-Zionist Orthodox (e.g., Satmar Hasidic) position remains logically unassailable.<\/p>\n

                  1. The Logical Flaw of Collective Responsibility (Who Violated the Oath?)<\/h3>\n

                  The Religious Zionist Argument:<\/b> „The nations of the world oppressed the Jews too harshly (the Holocaust), therefore the oath has lost its validity.”<\/i><\/p>\n

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                    The Logical Fallacy:<\/b> The „nations of the world” (Umot HaOlam<\/i>) do not constitute a single, homogenous legal entity. The Holocaust was perpetrated by Nazi Germany and its European collaborators. Conversely, during the period in question, Palestine (the territory of modern-day Israel), which became the home of the Jewish people, was part of the Ottoman Empire and subsequently the British Mandate. The indigenous Palestinian population had absolutely nothing to do with the European Holocaust.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                    The Consequence:<\/b> It is logically absurd to dissolve an oath and occupy Palestine by citing a breach of contract committed by an entirely different party (Germany). This is akin to Party „B” seizing the property of an entirely innocent Party „C” as revenge and compensation, based on a breach of contract committed by Party „A”.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                    2. Rebellion Against the Palestinians (Violation of the Second Oath)<\/h3>\n

                    The Second Oath States:<\/b> „That Jews shall not rebel against the nations that took them in during exile.”<\/i><\/p>\n

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                      The Logical Fallacy:<\/b> When Zionists established armed militias (Haganah, Irgun, Lehi), they rebelled not only against the British mandatory authority but also against the Palestinian-Arab population that had inhabited the land for centuries, expelling them through armed violence (the Nakba).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                      Even if Zionists argue that European persecution absolved them from the First Oath (the prohibition of return), they possessed absolutely no logical or moral ground to violate the Second Oath by attacking a Middle Eastern Muslim\/Arab world that had provided them with dhimmi<\/i> protection and sanctuary from European antisemitism since the Middle Ages.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                      3. Divine Sovereignty vs. The Abuse of Human Arbitrariness<\/h3>\n

                      In his seminal work Va-Yoel Moshe<\/i>, Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum (the Satmar Rebbe) brilliantly exposed the theological and logical contradiction Zionists commit when interpreting the Divine plan.<\/p>\n

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                        Zionist Logic:<\/b> God allowed the Holocaust $\\rightarrow$<\/span> the nations violated the oath $\\rightarrow$<\/span> God absolved the Jews from the oath $\\rightarrow$<\/span> a state must be established by force of arms.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        The Talmudic\/Orthodox Refutation:<\/b> According to Jewish theology, exile (Galut<\/i>) is a Divine punishment for sins, and redemption (Geula<\/i>) can only manifest through Divine, supernatural intervention (by the Messiah). If the nations oppress the Jews, this occurs\u2014according to the Jewish faith\u2014by the will of God (as a historical tribulation).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        Logical Conclusion:<\/b> According to Talmudic law, the fact that the prison guard (the nations) is harsher than permitted does not grant the prisoner (the Jews) the right to arbitrarily break into the King’s (God’s) palace and claim the house belongs to them even without the King’s permission. The Zionist position humanizes and secularizes the messianic promise, thereby degrading Divine redemption into an armed political campaign.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                        4. Misinterpretation of the Concept of „Wall-Scaling” (Chomah<\/i>)<\/h3>\n

                        The First Oath prohibits „scaling the wall,” which Talmudic commentaries define as mass immigration executed by physical, armed, or political force prior to the arrival of the Messiah.<\/p>\n

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                          Zionist Logic:<\/b> The Jews did not „scale a wall”; rather, they received international legal authorization to return through the Balfour Declaration and the 1947 UN Partition Plan.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                          The Logical Fallacy:<\/b> The oath does not concern international diplomacy; it concerns Divine timing. The Talmud does not say, „Do not return unless the UN votes for it.”<\/i> The essence of the oath is that the Jewish people must not take their fate into their own hands using material means before the messianic era. The fact that secular, imperialist superpowers (Great Britain, the USA) assisted in state-building does not override the metaphysical oath made with the Creator according to Talmudic law.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                          Summary for Antipropaganda<\/h3>\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n
                          Anti-Zionist Orthodox Logic (Consistent)<\/strong><\/td>\nReligious Zionist Logic (Inconsistent)<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
                          The oath was forged between God and the Jewish people; man cannot dissolve it.<\/span><\/td>\nEurope violated the oath, therefore it is permissible to establish a state in Palestine.<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                          Redemption is a spiritual and peaceful process (Messiah).<\/span><\/td>\nRedemption is a military and political process (IDF, Zionism).<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                          Respects the Second Oath: does not rebel against local nations.<\/span><\/td>\nViolates the Second Oath: expels the local population by force of arms.<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

                          The religious Zionist position is thus logically untenable because it uses a historical crime suffered in Europe (the Holocaust) as a legal basis for a colonial war in Palestine, while completely distorting the spirit of the Talmud to convert spiritual commandments into political aggression.<\/p>\n

                          I. Precise Citation of Sources (The Original Text)<\/h2>\n
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                            Primary Source:<\/b> Babylonian Talmud, Tractate Ketubot, page 111a (Talmud Bavli, Masechet Ketubot 111a<\/i>).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            Context:<\/b> This section of the Talmud builds upon three cryptic verses from the Song of Songs (Shir HaShirim<\/i>), where the text adjures the daughters of Jerusalem „not to stir up nor awaken love until it pleases” (Song of Songs 2:7, 3:5, 8:4). Rabbinic exegesis projects this onto the relationship between the Jewish people and God, exile, and redemption.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                            II. Source-Critical Review and Verification of Content<\/h2>\n

                            1. The First Oath: „Scaling the Wall” (Shelo ya’alu b’chomah<\/i>)<\/h3>\n
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                              Original Talmudic Expression:<\/b> „To ascend like a wall,”<\/i> which Rashi (the most authoritative Talmudic commentator, 11th century) explains as „returning by force, collectively (en masse).”<\/b><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Verification of the Zionist Argument:<\/b> Religious Zionists (principally based on the legacy of Rav Kook) claim that the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the 1947 UN Resolution legally dissolved this restriction because the nations of the world „granted permission” for the return.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Refutation of the Logical Flaw:<\/b> Within the context of the Talmud, the oath exists between God and the Jewish people<\/b>, not between the Jewish people and the gentile nations. Neither the UN nor Great Britain possesses the theological jurisdiction to dissolve a metaphysical oath required by God from Jewry. The dissolution of the oath could only occur through prophetic signs or the physical arrival of the Messiah.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                              2. The Third Oath: The Oppression by the Nations (Shelo yishtabdu bahem yoter midai<\/i>)<\/h3>\n
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                                Original Talmudic Text:<\/b> God made the nations of the world swear not to subjugate the Jews „excessively” during exile.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                Verification of the Zionist Argument:<\/b> Zionist theology (e.g., modern nationalist religious movements), based on the principle of Anshei Geulah<\/i>, argues that since the Holocaust occurred, the nations breached the contract, thereby exempting Jews from the other two oaths (allowing them to return and rebel).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                Re-verification of the Logical and Legal Error:<\/b> 1. Lack of Reciprocity:<\/b> In Talmudic and Halachic law (unlike modern civil contract law), a Divine oath is not a bilateral, synallagmatic (reciprocal) contract. A crime committed by one party (the nations) does not grant the other party (the Jews) the right to violate a separate commandment (respecting Divine timing).<\/p>\n

                                2. Targeting the Wrong Party:<\/b> The Holocaust was perpetrated by European nations. Yet, Zionism did not establish a state in Germany or Poland, but in Palestine. The Palestinian-Arab population and Middle Eastern Muslims were not parties to the European breach of the Third Oath, yet the Zionist position extracts „compensation” from them.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                III. Final Conclusion After Verification<\/h2>\n

                                A review of the material indicates that the religious Zionist stance is built on theological opportunism<\/b>: it treats the Talmud not as a source of law, but as a source of retroactive political legitimation.<\/p>\n

                                When convenient for Zionism, it invokes biblical boundaries (holy land), but when the Talmud explicitly forbids armed state-building before the Messiah, it invokes secular international law (the UN) and the trauma caused by European antisemitism to invalidate rabbinic tradition.<\/p>\n

                                The logic of Satmar Hasidism (Va-Yoel Moshe<\/i>) is airtight and flawless from this perspective: if exile is the Divine will, then armed Zionism is a secular rebellion that does not hasten but rather\u2014by accumulating transgressions\u2014delays true, peaceful messianic redemption.<\/p>\n

                                This section of the Talmud is debated by the rabbis in a hybrid language of Aramaic and Hebrew. Here is the most critical passage forming the foundation of the Three Oaths (Salos Sevuot<\/i>), along with its precise translation and explanation:<\/p>\n

                                The Text of the Talmud (Ketubot 111a)<\/h3>\n

                                \u05d2’ \u05e9\u05d1\u05d5\u05e2\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05dc\u05dc\u05d5 \u05dc\u05de\u05d4? \u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e2\u05dc\u05d5 \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d1\u05d7\u05d5\u05de\u05d4 \u05d5\u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d0\u05ea \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05de\u05e8\u05d3\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d0\u05d5\u05de\u05d5\u05ea \u05d4\u05e2\u05d5\u05dc\u05dd \u05d5\u05d0\u05d7\u05ea \u05e9\u05d4\u05e9\u05d1\u05d9\u05e2 \u05d4\u05e7\u05d3\u05d5\u05e9 \u05d1\u05e8\u05d5\u05da \u05d4\u05d5\u05d0 \u05d0\u05ea \u05e2\u05d5\u05d1\u05d3\u05d9 \u05db\u05d5\u05db\u05d1\u05d9\u05dd \u05e9\u05dc\u05d0 \u05d9\u05e9\u05ea\u05e2\u05d1\u05d3\u05d5 \u05d1\u05d4\u05df \u05d1\u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc \u05d9\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8 \u05de\u05d3\u05d0\u05d9<\/b><\/p>\n

                                English Translation:<\/h4>\n
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                                „What is the purpose of these Three Oaths?<\/p>\n

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                                  The First:<\/b> That Israel should not ascend [to the Land] en masse (as a wall\/by force).<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  The Second:<\/b> With which the Holy One, Blessed be He, adjured Israel that they should not rebel against the nations of the world.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  The Third:<\/b> With which the Holy One, Blessed be He, adjured the idolaters (the nations of the world) that they should not subjugate Israel excessively.”<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

                                  A H\u00e1rom Esk\u00fc (Salos Sevuot, Ketubot 111a) \u00e9s az arra \u00e9p\u00fcl\u0151 vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e9rvel\u00e9s elemz\u00e9se az egyik legizgalmasabb teol\u00f3giai \u00e9s logikai terep. Ha a klasszikus talmudi logika \u00e9s a nemzetk\u00f6zi jog alapelvei fel\u0151l k\u00f6zel\u00edt\u00fcnk, a vall\u00e1sos cionista \u00e1ll\u00e1spont \u2013 miszerint a harmadik esk\u00fc megszeg\u00e9se (a Holokauszt) \u00e9rv\u00e9nytelen\u00edtette a m\u00e1sik kett\u0151t \u2013 t\u00f6bb ponton is s\u00falyos […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2493,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"rs_blank_template":"","rs_page_bg_color":"","slide_template_v7":"","_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"wpai_generated_summary":"","tdm_status":"","tdm_grid_status":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[25,97],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2492","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","category-hasbara-megdonese","category-vallas"],"modified_by":"Antipropaganda H\u00edrblog","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2492","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2492"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2492\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/2493"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2492"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2492"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/antipropaganda.hu\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2492"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}